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|  d-monk | Apr 17, 2006 7:04am | | He is risen indeed! |
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| | G-MO | Apr 17, 2006 4:37pm | | yes indeed |
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|  |  438731 | Feb 3, 12:57am | No he isn't. Mark wrote his gospel first and doesn't mention this whole resurrection nonsense. That was added later for dramatic effect. And none of them concur on the simple facts they relate. Who exactly was at the tomb? How many people? Where were they positioned? Were they sitting or standing? None of it corroborates. Given that it is central to the Christian faith, you'd think they'd try a bit harder!
And when he is "risen", where is he risen to? Clearly these people believed that heaven was a physical place above the clouds. But we know better now, so why keep believing? |
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Sponsor |  Ewtn2000 | Feb 3, 12:52pm | Well we all have our opinions and since you weren't there, we only have the word of God for it. Now if you ever had any experience with taking depositions from different people on the same event, you will notice that they all don't say the same thing. If they do, then you know it's a fake. It they all say the basic same story, yet there are different details, then you know that you are closer to the truth.
He is risen to the place where God Himself is. Trying to explain that place is like trying to explain to an ant in your backyard, all about the world you live in. You keep on not believing. I will stick with what I have seen.
He will come again.
In death, He destroyed our death and in Rising He restored our life.... |
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| | | 438731 | Feb 4, 1:36am | "Now if you ever had any experience with taking depositions from different people on the same event, you will notice that they all don't say the same thing."
But this is divinely inspired scripture! I expect no errors from omnipotent, omniscient beings. None.
And how do you explain Mark's ommission of this "momentous" event?
"I will stick with what I have seen."
Please feel free to share your experiences. |
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Sponsor | | Ewtn2000 | Feb 4, 5:24am | Well the scripture is inspire, but the writers are human. You won't get disappointed when you expect no errors from God, you will get disappointed when you expect no errors from humans.
When the sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary, the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go and anoint him. Very early when the sun had risen, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb. They were saying to one another, "Who will roll back the stone for us from the entrance to the tomb?" When they looked up, they saw that the stone had been rolled back; it was very large. On entering the tomb they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a white robe, and they were utterly amazed. He said to them, "Do not be amazed! You seek Jesus of Nazareth, the crucified. He has been raised; he is not here. Behold the place where they laid him. But go and tell his disciples and Peter, 'He is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him, as he told you.'"---Mark:1-7
Mark wrote this to show that the tomb was empty and that Jesus had risen, in fulfillment of Mark 14:28. But yes there have been talks from centuries on what some manuscripts say and what others don't. The Council of Trent noted that in the canonical process. |
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| | | 438731 | Feb 4, 6:01am | | Well I'm pleased that you will at least admit that scripture may indeed by errant. :D |
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Sponsor | | Ewtn2000 | Feb 4, 6:45am | | Scripture no, Humans yes. |
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